Hi All,
I had a recent issue where the engine just died on the boat so I brought it to the shop details here: http://seadoosportbo...ied--t2285.html
It was a fuel pump issue but while checking it they found Cyl 5 had low compression. I thought that was odd because it was doing 50mph no problem (on the gauge not "true" GPS speed) However here is what it was doing occasionally:
-It would be at say 3/4 throttle with a constant speed, then the engine noise would change, it would get deeper as if I had let off the throttle but I never touched it, then it would go back to normal.
-It did this the first half hour I had it out the first time but then was fine the rest of the day
Now today we put it in the water after it being at the shop and it would not go over 30mph At first it was going pretty good but I didn't want to punch it but it made the same engine noises however this time it stayed on the lower pitched sound and would not go over 30. It STRUGGLED to plane and get to 30 even with just me in the boat.
So, looks like I might need a new engine. First just in case I will change the plugs and wires next weekend and try and test the compression myself, maybe I will be lucky but I doubt it.
Bear in mind, I bought this boat for $500 from my boss, it sat in the water for years without being used much at all. Then prior to me buying it the boat was stored for 2 years. It was winterized/de-winterized by a marina every year and prior to me buying it the marina de-winterized it and did a water test so it sucks they didn't catch something like this.
I spend $1300 on a brand new galvanized trailer with swing away tongue and LED lights which I could re-use on a different boat if I had to. A package like that here boat/trailer of the same year is 12-14k so I am ahead big time.
Anyways, keeping that in mind here are my questions:
1-Do people on boat engines rebuild them like you would a Seadoo/Car etc. where I would just take the engine out, get new oversize pistons/rings get it machined get new gaskets/seals and rebuild it?
2-Where would one get these parts to do this job?
3-Is there a service manual that helps with how to get the engine out of the boat? for the most part it would be fine just unsure how it's connected to the drive system.
4-Is it worth it, how much do you think it would cost?
5-Are there used/reman engines available?
6-Do I sell it to someone for a couple grand with full disclosure of engine problems and buy another boat?
7-What are your thoughts?
Even if I put a couple 4-5k into it on a rebuild it's still will have cost me 50% of what it's worth and who knows even buying a different one at 12k might still get problems.
Sorry for SUPER long winded post.
Thanks!
Jay
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Update on my 01 Utopia 185 200hp - Engine problems
13 July 2009 - 09:57 AM
My 01 Utopia 185 just died :(
01 July 2009 - 04:06 PM
This is the third time I go out on the boat, last time was a week and a half ago I was out all day just chilling/cruising/wakeboarding and had no issues. I had filled it with 140L of fuel before I went out last time and it's still above 3/4 full.
The boat stayed anchored in the water since then, I went out today, inspected everything no water in the engine bay or anything so started up the boat and went off. I cruised around for 5-10 minutes slow at first to warm her up then 20-25mph, it was pretty choppy so I didn't want to go too fast and then all of a sudden the boat died. No sputter nothing just died.
So I try to start it again and it turns over no problem but won't fire up. I let everything air out, I looked into the engine bay I couldn't see anything that looked out of place, half hour goes by still turns over but won't fire.
Is there a fuel shut off or fuel reserve or something that I'm missing?
Any thoughts?
If it doesn't fire up in the morning I'll bring it in for service
Thanks,
Jerome
The boat stayed anchored in the water since then, I went out today, inspected everything no water in the engine bay or anything so started up the boat and went off. I cruised around for 5-10 minutes slow at first to warm her up then 20-25mph, it was pretty choppy so I didn't want to go too fast and then all of a sudden the boat died. No sputter nothing just died.
So I try to start it again and it turns over no problem but won't fire up. I let everything air out, I looked into the engine bay I couldn't see anything that looked out of place, half hour goes by still turns over but won't fire.
Is there a fuel shut off or fuel reserve or something that I'm missing?
Any thoughts?
If it doesn't fire up in the morning I'll bring it in for service
Thanks,
Jerome
2001 Utopia - Pulling a wakeboard Questions
23 June 2009 - 09:14 PM
I just bought this boat recently and put it in the water last weekend for the first time. I had never wakeboarded before but an avid snowboarder and kiteboarder I figured I wouldn't have any issues which I didn't.
The question is, the wake wasn't very big, and there was LOTS of spray from the boat.
I'm thinking maybe we weren't driving/pulling properly since it was mine and my buddy's first time towing someone one a boat, this is what we were doing:
-When the wakeboarder gave the signal, go 90-100% throttle to get him out of the water
-Once the boat was on plane which didn't take too long, eased up on the throttle to about 18-20mph and cruised
This caused not much wake and a HUGE amount of spray probably 20-30ft of spray behind the boat.
Are we supposed to get the boat on plane? Some people are telling me that it shouldn't be. Maybe just a ballast bag in front of the rear seat with 500-600lbs would be good?
Thanks for the help!
Jerome
The question is, the wake wasn't very big, and there was LOTS of spray from the boat.
I'm thinking maybe we weren't driving/pulling properly since it was mine and my buddy's first time towing someone one a boat, this is what we were doing:
-When the wakeboarder gave the signal, go 90-100% throttle to get him out of the water
-Once the boat was on plane which didn't take too long, eased up on the throttle to about 18-20mph and cruised
This caused not much wake and a HUGE amount of spray probably 20-30ft of spray behind the boat.
Are we supposed to get the boat on plane? Some people are telling me that it shouldn't be. Maybe just a ballast bag in front of the rear seat with 500-600lbs would be good?
Thanks for the help!
Jerome
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