Update on my 01 Utopia 185 200hp - Engine problems
#1
Posted 13 July 2009 - 09:57 AM
I had a recent issue where the engine just died on the boat so I brought it to the shop details here: http://seadoosportbo...ied--t2285.html
It was a fuel pump issue but while checking it they found Cyl 5 had low compression. I thought that was odd because it was doing 50mph no problem (on the gauge not "true" GPS speed) However here is what it was doing occasionally:
-It would be at say 3/4 throttle with a constant speed, then the engine noise would change, it would get deeper as if I had let off the throttle but I never touched it, then it would go back to normal.
-It did this the first half hour I had it out the first time but then was fine the rest of the day
Now today we put it in the water after it being at the shop and it would not go over 30mph At first it was going pretty good but I didn't want to punch it but it made the same engine noises however this time it stayed on the lower pitched sound and would not go over 30. It STRUGGLED to plane and get to 30 even with just me in the boat.
So, looks like I might need a new engine. First just in case I will change the plugs and wires next weekend and try and test the compression myself, maybe I will be lucky but I doubt it.
Bear in mind, I bought this boat for $500 from my boss, it sat in the water for years without being used much at all. Then prior to me buying it the boat was stored for 2 years. It was winterized/de-winterized by a marina every year and prior to me buying it the marina de-winterized it and did a water test so it sucks they didn't catch something like this.
I spend $1300 on a brand new galvanized trailer with swing away tongue and LED lights which I could re-use on a different boat if I had to. A package like that here boat/trailer of the same year is 12-14k so I am ahead big time.
Anyways, keeping that in mind here are my questions:
1-Do people on boat engines rebuild them like you would a Seadoo/Car etc. where I would just take the engine out, get new oversize pistons/rings get it machined get new gaskets/seals and rebuild it?
2-Where would one get these parts to do this job?
3-Is there a service manual that helps with how to get the engine out of the boat? for the most part it would be fine just unsure how it's connected to the drive system.
4-Is it worth it, how much do you think it would cost?
5-Are there used/reman engines available?
6-Do I sell it to someone for a couple grand with full disclosure of engine problems and buy another boat?
7-What are your thoughts?
Even if I put a couple 4-5k into it on a rebuild it's still will have cost me 50% of what it's worth and who knows even buying a different one at 12k might still get problems.
Sorry for SUPER long winded post.
Thanks!
Jay
#2
Posted 29 July 2009 - 07:52 PM
Now the question is do you want to pay for this or take on this task? Keep us posted on your progress and your decision.
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#3
Posted 24 January 2010 - 02:37 PM
If you have a Mercury Engine, I suggest you have the fuel injectors cleaned. I had some strange problems with my engine this summer and we finally discovered it was due to dirty fuel injectors. I had them cleand and the boat works greatHi All,
I had a recent issue where the engine just died on the boat so I brought it to the shop details here: http://seadoosportbo...ied--t2285.html
It was a fuel pump issue but while checking it they found Cyl 5 had low compression. I thought that was odd because it was doing 50mph no problem (on the gauge not "true" GPS speed) However here is what it was doing occasionally:
-It would be at say 3/4 throttle with a constant speed, then the engine noise would change, it would get deeper as if I had let off the throttle but I never touched it, then it would go back to normal.
-It did this the first half hour I had it out the first time but then was fine the rest of the day
Now today we put it in the water after it being at the shop and it would not go over 30mph a At first it was going pretty good but I didn't want to punch it but it made the same engine noises however this time it stayed on the lower pitched sound and would not go over 30. It STRUGGLED to plane and get to 30 even with just me in the boat.
So, looks like I might need a new engine. First just in case I will change the plugs and wires next weekend and try and test the compression myself, maybe I will be lucky but I doubt it.
Bear in mind, I bought this boat for $500 from my boss, it sat in the water for years without being used much at all. Then prior to me buying it the boat was stored for 2 years. It was winterized/de-winterized by a marina every year and prior to me buying it the marina de-winterized it and did a water test so it sucks they didn't catch something like this.
I spend $1300 on a brand new galvanized trailer with swing away tongue and LED lights which I could re-use on a different boat if I had to. A package like that here boat/trailer of the same year is 12-14k so I am ahead big time.
Anyways, keeping that in mind here are my questions:
1-Do people on boat engines rebuild them like you would a Seadoo/Car etc. where I would just take the engine out, get new oversize pistons/rings get it machined get new gaskets/seals and rebuild it?
2-Where would one get these parts to do this job?
3-Is there a service manual that helps with how to get the engine out of the boat? for the most part it would be fine just unsure how it's connected to the drive system.
4-Is it worth it, how much do you think it would cost?
5-Are there used/reman engines available?
6-Do I sell it to someone for a couple grand with full disclosure of engine problems and buy another boat?
7-What are your thoughts?
Even if I put a couple 4-5k into it on a rebuild it's still will have cost me 50% of what it's worth and who knows even buying a different one at 12k might still get problems.
Sorry for SUPER long winded post.
Thanks!
Jay
#4
Posted 24 January 2010 - 04:43 PM
Thanks for the tip! Glad you got things worked out and everything is now running great!If you have a Mercury Engine, I suggest you have the fuel injectors cleaned. I had some strange problems with my engine this summer and we finally discovered it was due to dirty fuel injectors. I had them cleand and the boat works great
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