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[gotmdx]

Has anyone tried this new sport with their seadoo? I've checked online but could not find a seadoo doing it. I guess it can only be done with wake boats???


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http://www.jfoto.com/WakeSurfing.htm

[ssmedt]

you need a masive wake to be able to wake surf I have always wanted to try it but i don't beileve that it is possible on a non-wakeboard boat. something differrent that I have done is wake skate; don't know if you have seen that before but it is basically a wakeboard without bindings and has skateboard grip on the top of the board. it is fun a challenging and something you don't see everyone else doing

[Kevin Leclair]

I agree, I have tried this behind a wakeboard boat but not our SeaDoo. We did it behind a Air Nautique; there are couple of pics in the gallery, http://seadoosportbo...o...=si&img=432.

I think you should be able to do it behind the 200 Wake or 230 Wake since those boats have a ballast system that should be able to create more wake like a traditional wakeboard boat.

[Jeff]

Well, let it be known, wakesurfing not only can be done, but works great behind a Seadoo SCIC. We in fact have two Seadoo Sportster SCICs that we use almost exclusively for wakesurfing - reason being we want to have fun with the kids at our summer camp and not worry about propellers. Here's a couple pics, one of which we are surfing on a 3" thick plank we found floating around.

So here's the method we stumbled upon that makes this possible (inspite of everyone in the known world saying it can't be done don't bother to try):

1) several people in the boat
2) one guy hanging off the tower with a windsurfing harness to lean the boat over to the side being surfed.
3) One 150lb fat sac or similar sized person on the back corner of the ski platform.
4) Use 6'0 regular surfboard (with rubber nose protector) not a wakesurfboard
5) Start out at 15 mph and let the wake form and stabilize, have the guy on the tower then hike himself out with both feet against the the boat but his body suspended by the windsurfing harnass - the farther out he hikes the better, then slowly drop your speed down to about 11mph.
5) Pull up hand over hand on the town rope until you are close behind the boat and thow the rope into the boat once the line goes slack
6) Learn to pump the board or reach down and take a couple of paddles by hand if you start to fall out of the wake.
7) When someone falls, the hiking guy on the tower swings back along side the boat so it doesn't tip over far enough to take on water.
8) If it starts to cavitate or steam too much out the back, you are leaned over sideways or front to back too far so adjust your weight distibution in the boat.

You'll be able to surf for miles once you get this proceedure down, and will blow everyone's minds who thought it couldn't be done and/or spent $60k on a propeller wake boat thinking that's the only way they could wakesurf.

You can find more pics here in case the attachments don't come through.

***Now all I ask in return for this life changing advice for Seadoo owners is someone PLEASE help with question about out our alarm problem***

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[Jeff]

PS Here's our website with some more wakesurfing pics behind our Sportster SCICs among other things

www.sunsetbay.com

[Kevin Leclair]

That is awesome Jeff, great to have you here!

[3card]

I am looking at the 230 Wake for wake surfing also. I am wondering if the 1000lbs of ballast is enough, along with 3-4 people in the back of the boat?
I know they are adding ballast systems upwards of around 1600lbs to surf behind Yamaha's AR230.
Check out the Yamaha jet boaters forum and see "Carfanatics" posts and videos.
I am trying to decide between the 230 Wake and AR230 (or) AR240. Yamaha is still a lot cheaper even after adding a ballast system. Thoughts???!!!

[spencer]

From what I learned by following "Carfanatics" posts about his AR230 is that ballast weight goes a long way. The deeper you can get that back corner in the water the more displacement is achieved and the better the surf wake you will have. Also the deeper you can get the jets the less wash you will have and the cleaner the face of the wave will be. The only issue I have found with SeaDoo's is that there is a lack of storage space.

[H-do-O]

I agree. More weight more weight. I have tried this once behind my boat and i am anxious to keep trying. I have the challenger 180 so it is a much smaller boat than the 230. In my opinion you will need much much more weight than any factory ballast system can apply. I ran just over 1000lbs in the back corner of my boat the last time we went out and my boat was just starting to lean the right way. Im not sure how much you would have to put in the back of a 230 or yahmaha 23 or 24 but it should be much more that what i put in mine. The wake was sooo close to surfing. You could get in the sweet spot for about 2 seconds with no line tension and then it was gone. Don't get me wrong its not going to put out a wake comparable to an inboard surf wake, but it will put out a surfable wake. I'm going out this weekend hopefully with some more people and i will be running around 1750lbs of ballast plus passengers. This should give me much more to work with....and i will try to remember my camera this time!

[spencer]

I'm going out this weekend hopefully with some more people and i will be running around 1750lbs of ballast plus passengers. This should give me much more to work with....and i will try to remember my camera this time!

Remember that weight in the back rear corner is going to form the shape and give you the height of the wave but as you move weight forward the surfable part, "sweat spot", will get longer allowing you to surf without the rope. It is a fine line because you lose the height as you displace more of the bow in the water. I am stoked to hear that you are surfing behind the 180. It is hard to displace enough of the hull on smaller boats to produce the desired surfwake without it getting too low in the water.

[H-do-O]

Thats good advice! I was soo excited this weekend to try this out with all the weight. Unfortunatly my post is the "problems with the rotax 215hp" post. I didn't even make it out of the no wake zone and i was completly dead in the water. hopefully i will get to try this this year because my friends supra will be ready in about 3 weeks. There will be no reason to try it behind my boat then. I wish more people had experience surfing behind the seadoos that could give advice.

[H-do-O]

For those out there wondering....yes it is possible. I have the clallenger 180 and surfed behind it this weekend without a rope and i am a beginner wake surfer. I had one 750 in the back seat/ floorboard corner with a 350 on top of that. another 350 under the the driver or passenger floorboard and another 350 in the bow. what sucks is we have a goofy rider and a regular rider so they had to be switched each time the other person rode. We kept the speed at about 12 to 13 on our seadoo guage. We also has a driver and one other passenger when riding so either 2 people on one side or 1 and 1.

After we were done surfing, we tried wakeboarding with all the weight in the midline of the boat. I was unsure of the boat being able to pull all the weight and a rider out of the water but it did just fine, just a little longer to get up to speed and you had to give it full throtle to make a turn and keep the 25 mph speed. Im pretty sure my speedometer is off on the high side. anyways the wake is the best ive ever seen behind my boat. I am very pleased to board behind my boat now. The only issue is space now. Once you get the desired amount of wight in the boat there is really no where to sit.

[H-do-O]

few pics of wake surfing beginners. This is fun stuff!

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