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[mparcel]

Is there a way to adjust the trim plate on a 2005 180? The excessive bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce (you get the idea) is about to drive me nuts - between that and my wife asking me "is it supposed to do that" every time it does it - I am ready to drive the boat into the rocks. What is everyone else doing? Help!!
Thanks,

2005 Challenger 180
215 SCIC

[mparcel]

Is there a way to adjust the trim plate on a 2005 180? The excessive bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce (you get the idea) is about to drive me nuts - between that and my wife asking me "is it supposed to do that" every time it does it - I am ready to drive the boat into the rocks. What is everyone else doing? Help!!
Thanks,

2005 Challenger 180
215 SCIC

Come on I can't be the only one having this problem - any help would be greatly appreciated
Thanks

[Figz]

Is there a way to adjust the trim plate on a 2005 180? The excessive bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce (you get the idea) is about to drive me nuts - between that and my wife asking me "is it supposed to do that"      every time it does it - I am ready to drive the boat into the rocks. What is everyone else doing? Help!!
Thanks,

2005 Challenger 180
215 SCIC

Come on I can't be the only one having this problem - any help would be greatly appreciated
Thanks

As far as I know, you can not adjust the ride plate on the C180, and the bounce seems to be a problem that we all have. Trim plates seem to be a must for these boats but from what I have been reading the C180 is a hard fit due to the small transom on the boat. The only way I can cotrol the bouncing is by limiting my speed, but I am keeping my eyes and ears open for a trim system that will work.

[canrad]

Is there a way to adjust the trim plate on a 2005 180? The excessive bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce (you get the idea) is about to drive me nuts - between that and my wife asking me "is it supposed to do that"      every time it does it - I am ready to drive the boat into the rocks. What is everyone else doing? Help!!
Thanks,

2005 Challenger 180
215 SCIC

Come on I can't be the only one having this problem - any help would be greatly appreciated
Thanks

As far as I know, you can not adjust the ride plate on the C180, and the bounce seems to be a problem that we all have. Trim plates seem to be a must for these boats but from what I have been reading the C180 is a hard fit due to the small transom on the boat. The only way I can cotrol the bouncing is by limiting my speed, but I am keeping my eyes and ears open for a trim system that will work.

I too have the problem of porpoising on my 2005 Challenger 180. My dealer installed manual trim plates on each side at no charge, and seemed to help when two people are in the boat, but haven't yet figured how to adjust for full load. Apparently a remote system is available (see: http://www.bennetttr...com/sd1800.htm)

If anyone else has suggestions on adjustment, or have tried the electric system on the 180, your comments would be appreciated.
Cliff

[canrad]

Just adjusted my manual trim plates to maximum down (about 3/4 ") and made tremendous difference, almost completely eliminating porpoising, flatter planing and faster out of hole with full load on board. I am so pleased. Can imagine remote adjustable systems must be fantastic.

[Figz]

Just adjusted my manual trim plates to maximum down (about 3/4 ") and made tremendous difference, almost completely eliminating porpoising, flatter planing and faster out of hole with full load on board. I am so pleased. Can imagine remote adjustable systems must be fantastic.

Canrad, can you please post some pics of your tabs when you get a chance?
Thanks

[spine]

Just adjusted my manual trim plates to maximum down (about 3/4 ") and made tremendous difference, almost completely eliminating porpoising, flatter planing and faster out of hole with full load on board. I am so pleased.  Can imagine remote adjustable systems must be fantastic.

Canrad, can you please post some pics of your tabs when you get a chance?
Thanks

Hi
Have not been on line for sometime but I complained about this last year. Good to hear that some dealers are being proactive about having put on manual bennett tabs that seem to be making a huge difference.
I too would be interested in seeing what the tabs look like and what model of tab was applied to your C180.
On a side note I have had conversations with my dealer as well as BRP in the past few months for the same concerns and they advised me that engineering is working on some type of fix (on a tab system and jet intake size) so it appears that maybe there are more than a few concerned dooers.
Keep you posted as to what the progress is for BRP

Spine

[spine]

As promised I have an update for you on BRP fix. My dealer just informed me that BRP created some custom manual trim tabs(part #295-000-244) and a modification to enlarge the intake shoot (part #295-000-245) for the Challenger 180. The dealer installed it about 2 weeks ago and unfortunately the weather has been pretty crummy in Southern Ontario so I was just able to get it on some flat water today.
I have to say it improved things minimally. The boat still purpoised but not as much and I did adjust them. As for performance I did not see any significant difference.
This is my second doo. First one was a Sportster 4-Tec with 155( no troubles...just wanted a bigger doo) and this was my second one a Challenger 180 with 215 SCIC. I guess I'm expecting too much from this bigger boat.
Anybody else having problems

[ATS]

As promised I have an update for you on BRP fix. My dealer just informed me that BRP created some custom manual trim tabs(part #295-000-244) and a modification to enlarge the intake shoot (part #295-000-245) for the Challenger 180. The dealer installed it about 2 weeks ago and unfortunately the weather has been pretty crummy in Southern Ontario so I was just able to get it on some flat water today.
I have to say it improved things minimally. The boat still purpoised but not as much and I did adjust them. As for performance I did not see any significant difference.
This is my second doo. First one was a Sportster 4-Tec with 155( no troubles...just wanted a bigger doo) and this was my second one a Challenger 180 with 215 SCIC. I guess I'm expecting too much from this bigger boat.
Anybody else having problems

I too am in Southern Ontario (Toronto Area). This fix, was it performed free? Do you have a TSB # I could refer to?

Also, which dealer did you buy from?

Thanks!

[spine]

As promised I have an update for you on BRP fix. My dealer just informed me that BRP created some custom manual trim tabs(part #295-000-244) and a modification to enlarge the intake shoot (part #295-000-245) for the Challenger 180. The dealer installed it about 2 weeks ago and unfortunately the weather has been pretty crummy in Southern Ontario so I was just able to get it on some flat water today.
I have to say it improved things minimally. The boat still purpoised but not as much and I did adjust them. As for performance I did not see any significant difference.
This is my second doo. First one was a Sportster 4-Tec with 155( no troubles...just wanted a bigger doo) and this was my second one a Challenger 180 with 215 SCIC. I guess I'm expecting too much from this bigger boat.
Anybody else having problems

I too am in Southern Ontario (Toronto Area). This fix, was it performed free? Do you have a TSB # I could refer to?

Also, which dealer did you buy from?

Thanks!

I did not get a Technical Service Bulletin # . I contacted the dealer in early spring 2007 and then contacted BRP Customer Service. They started a file and eventually advised me that very few people (< 1 in 100) were reporting any problems. They then proceed to tell me they were working on a fix anyhow. In the end they had a kit made that included trim tabs as well an device to enlarge the intake. Obviously to fix the porposing and incease the performance. They were covered under warranty and the parts numbers were the ones I have already provided. The dealer was Lockharts out of Courtright Ontario. You can find them by doing a dealer search on Seadoo.com
Hope this helps you out

ps: I just heard that BRP is launching a new lineup for 2007 and I'm looking forward to see what they have to offer. The Challenger 180 has not met my expectations so I think its gotta go

[ATS]

As promised I have an update for you on BRP fix. My dealer just informed me that BRP created some custom manual trim tabs(part #295-000-244) and a modification to enlarge the intake shoot (part #295-000-245) for the Challenger 180. The dealer installed it about 2 weeks ago and unfortunately the weather has been pretty crummy in Southern Ontario so I was just able to get it on some flat water today.
I have to say it improved things minimally. The boat still purpoised but not as much and I did adjust them. As for performance I did not see any significant difference.
This is my second doo. First one was a Sportster 4-Tec with 155( no troubles...just wanted a bigger doo) and this was my second one a Challenger 180 with 215 SCIC. I guess I'm expecting too much from this bigger boat.
Anybody else having problems

I too am in Southern Ontario (Toronto Area). This fix, was it performed free? Do you have a TSB # I could refer to?

Also, which dealer did you buy from?

Thanks!

I did not get a Technical Service Bulletin # . I contacted the dealer in early spring 2007 and then contacted BRP Customer Service. They started a file and eventually advised me that very few people (< 1 in 100) were reporting any problems. They then proceed to tell me they were working on a fix anyhow. In the end they had a kit made that included trim tabs as well an device to enlarge the intake. Obviously to fix the porposing and incease the performance. They were covered under warranty and the parts numbers were the ones I have already provided. The dealer was Lockharts out of Courtright Ontario. You can find them by doing a dealer search on Seadoo.com
Hope this helps you out

ps: I just heard that BRP is launching a new lineup for 2007 and I'm looking forward to see what they have to offer. The Challenger 180 has not met my expectations so I think its gotta go

Thanks for the info, I will be providing this to my dealer. What customer service number did you call at BRP?

Also, you have had this done a Chellenger 180 CS correct?

[river115]

Has anyone ran across Trim Tabs that will work on the C180 ?