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[LandLord]

What is a sub-move?

Who does them?

Why do them?

Do yall worry about the bilge pump keeping up with the water? Can it keep up?

Aren't yall risking taking in a huge amount of water INTO the interior of the boat?

How can I verify that my bilge pump is working? I'v only seen it squirt water one time since I'v owned the boat.

It would appear that these owners are almost trying to dive their boats under water. Can this be true?

I have been perfectly happy jumping my boat 3-4 feet out of the water - catching air. I have certainly never considered trying to dive it underwater.

I got extremely nervous while boating 12 miles offshore in the Gulf of Mexico and a wave came across the bow. I made sure it didn't happen again and paid much better attention to riding the waves rather than going thru them.

Can someone explain this to me?

[kvoman]

What is a sub-move? - The intentional act of pushing the nose of the boat into and under the water!!! Go forward (fast or slow depend on your nerves), put it in reverse, crank up throttle - nose dip, stern rises, water into the boat, people get soaked, laugh or scream, etc. Be warned though, some people have broke their reverse bucket because of going too fast. I usually do it around 25 - 30, never done it at 35 or faster, although some have done it at 45.

Who does them? - anyone can.

Why do them? - fun and emergency practice - jet boat can stop on a dime so if you're ever in an emergency, this is the maneuver. It's actually mentioned in the owner's manual but not called sub movel!!!

Do yall worry about the bilge pump keeping up with the water? No worry at all. Can it keep up? Yes, it can.

Aren't yall risking taking in a huge amount of water INTO the interior of the boat? - No, it's fun.

How can I verify that my bilge pump is working? You should be able to turn it on manually with your bilge pump switch. Gotta make sure nothing else is turned on or you won't be able to hear it. Very faint whril sound.

I'v only seen it squirt water one time since I'v owned the boat - that's good, it means you don't have that much water in the boat when it's in the water.

[gofast]

What is a sub-move?

Who does them?

Why do them?

Do yall worry about the bilge pump keeping up with the water? Can it keep up?

Aren't yall risking taking in a huge amount of water INTO the interior of the boat?

How can I verify that my bilge pump is working? I'v only seen it squirt water one time since I'v owned the boat.

It would appear that these owners are almost trying to dive their boats under water. Can this be true?

I have been perfectly happy jumping my boat 3-4 feet out of the water - catching air. I have certainly never considered trying to dive it underwater.

I got extremely nervous while boating 12 miles offshore in the Gulf of Mexico and a wave came across the bow. I made sure it didn't happen again and paid much better attention to riding the waves rather than going thru them.

Can someone explain this to me?

A sub move is a display of impressive boatmanship,its a guy thing ,driven by excessive hormones .Unless of course you are a female skipper, then its a girl thing , driven by excessive hormones.Either way your scare the heck out of passengers.

[thumper]

im unsure about other boats but if you flood the deck of the sportster it drains thru the scupper valve avoiding the engine bay altogether - if the water goes into your ski locker it will then go into the engine bay and out via the bilge pump, only flooded my deck once and no water went into ski locker despite there being 4 inches of water on deck - i think the ski locker is fairly well sealed.

flooded it by stuffing into wave in a head sea - not brave enough for sub-moves!

[cAn'T sWim]

You should try it once......at least you will know what happens, what it can be good for, when it could be used etc....

I love to get unsuspecting people.....especially wearing white tee's!!!!

Try it slow, then add a couple mph, try it again until you get the effect.

It really is allot of fun at the right time.

[thumper]

yeh maybe next summer - like the white tee shirt idea - i am also worried about ripping the revese gate off! but i guess if you take it easy it shoudl be ok

[D Lo]

I've tried the sub move of running forward, placing it into reverse and kicking up the throttle, but the nose never goes down far enough to pull in water. I've done this at all speeds....am I doing something wrong? or is the sportster incapable of it?

[gofast]

Trust me , the sportster can do it.

[cAn'T sWim]

I've tried the sub move of running forward, placing it into reverse and kicking up the throttle, but the nose never goes down far enough to pull in water. I've done this at all speeds....am I doing something wrong? or is the sportster incapable of it?

That reminds me off all the people who said..."I can't get my Motorcycle to wheelie, I think its too heavy or something." Let me show how to do that......I said!



You gotta just do it!!!! Almost any boat could do it.....

[gofast]

Put some fatter people on board. Yes i can say that , I'm a weight challenged person myself.

[LandLord]

Put some fatter people on board. Yes i can say that , I'm a weight challenged person myself.

I'v noticed down in the deep south when you hear someone say: "Hey Yall Watch This!" - something bad is fixing to happen! But . . . . next time I'm in calm water I will give the sub-move a try. I'm sure my insurance company will love me if I rip off the bucket in the process. That would be an interesting claim to explain.

[kvoman]

Easy - it was an emergency maneuver, some idiots cut across your bow! The maneuver is mentioned in the manual.

[fialoe]

For a new owner could someone then tell me what a 360 is? I have an idea but may be way off the mark!!!

[johnv]

For a new owner could someone then tell me what a 360 is? I have an idea but may be way off the mark!!!

A 360 is also know as a spin. Some boats spin either direction, but I recomend your first attempt to spin to the right.

Safety first. Be sure you are secured to the safety lanyard, and all occupants have properly fitted PFDs. Next try it first only in smooth water, a good distance away from the shore, obstacles, or other boaters. I would suggest trying this first when you are alone in the boat. It can be very scary for passengers. I have thrown them out of the seat! It also can be scary for the pilot!

My technique. Get the boat on plane between 30-35 mph. Cut throttle to neutral. Quickly turn wheel all the way to one side. ( I suggest to the right so that if you are thrown from your seat you will be in the boat, not the water. ) You should still be moving at a good speed on plane, but not turn because there is no rudder. Then hit full throttle. Your speedster should break loose from the water, and the tail spin around. The harder you hit the throttle and longer you hold it the more spin you will get. Be sure to cut throttle, turn, and throttle up very quickly in succession for maximum effect.

A 360 is when you spin completely around, and are facing the same direction you started.

[fialoe]

If I don't post again it means I got it wrong
Anything else I should be risking my life with?

[GrahamGollings]

Trust me , the sportster can do it.

The Sporter can do the "sub move"?, not sure. Whats the procedure? On my Sportser the throttle is mechanically limited to about 1/4 when the boat is put in reverse.

Ok, I am up and planing. Want to hit reverse. I have to throttle to minimum. Now I can select reverse, throttle back to the maximum allowed (1/4). Makes a lot of spray but nothing spectacular happens.

[gofast]

The first time was lame.slow speed. By the third time my son managed to eject himself . Good point about lanyard and vest.

[gofast]

Trust me , the sportster can do it.

The Sporter can do the "sub move"?, not sure. Whats the procedure? On my Sportser the throttle is mechanically limited to about 1/4 when the boat is put in reverse.

Ok, I am up and planing. Want to hit reverse. I have to throttle to minimum. Now I can select reverse, throttle back to the maximum allowed (1/4). Makes a lot of spray but nothing spectacular happens.

The trick is to time the momentum. when you chop throttle bow dips and the stern wave picks up rear. you have to be quick to hit reverse at same time. Its not a major sub but it does sub.

[D Lo]

I may be dooing the throttle and shifter too fast. I'll try timing it next time I'm out. When you perform this are you solo or do you have company? I'm all for dooing these tricks. Got too crazy already and ejected my wife out of her seat by jumping a wake siedways she went straight out the seat and landed on me! We felt that the rest of the day.